Democrats need to stop eating their own

By Locamama  On 3/22/2008 10:46:51 AM  In Democrat   18 Comments   Article Link

Democrats need to stop eating their own

I expect the Republicans to tear into Hillary.  I'm just tired of the Obama supporters doing it.  Democrats need to start thinking about November and the general election.  I will admit that I have been critical of Obama in my support of Hillary Clinton.  I think that I have been able to at least avoid the pointless character assasination and look at the issues. 

Obama himself said that Hillary was untrustworthy.  One of his campaign workers said that Bill Clinton was like Joseph McCarthy.  Why can't we stick to the important issues, the war, the economy, healthcare, etc? 

Oh and definately read the linked article.  It's funny. 

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Comments (18)
Island Dog Wrote:
On Mar 22, 2008

No they don't.  This is great entertainment for the rest of us.

 

Locamama Wrote:
On Mar 22, 2008

No they don't. This is great entertainment for the rest of us.

Yep, that's the point who is it helping - McCain and the Republicans.  Stupid Dems, sometimes, I hate belonging to this club. 

terpfan1980 Wrote:
On Mar 22, 2008

If one of those 'stupid dems' were to walk away, the buffet would certainly stop.  Unfortunately for you, your candidate is done and just doesn't realize she can't win.  That being the case, she'll go nuclear and do everything possible to win the nomination that she 'waited for' 4 years ago and now feels is owed to her.

Fact of the matter, if she'd have run instead of Kerry, we would probably have been saluting Mrs. President over the last several years.  She opted not to run in the 2004 race and now there's another candidate that better represents change than she does.  Now it is no longer her turn and she refuses to acknowledge that, so yes, she and her minions are doing what they can to knock back the other candidate in the hopes she can somehow still pull it off.

Locamama Wrote:
On Mar 22, 2008

I don't think Hillary should drop out.  She has won many of the big states.  I think the Democratic party leadership needs to make sure that the voters in Michigan and Florida have a say in the nomination process in fairness to them.  If Obama is so sure he would win, why is he protesting the revote?  It's not impossible for her to win.  It's not over yet.  I don't think that it's her turn but I think she is the better candidate. 

Dr Guy Wrote:
On Mar 22, 2008
The article linked is good in one respect only. It does show the true colors of the NY times.

And just a question. WHy is it any different for Hillary or Obama to tear into each other, than to tear into others? The only difference is the opponent. The truth of the person only sees that, and nothing more.

And while I dont agree with 99% of what Obama says, I do agree with him in your quote of him. And the truth is that his statement IS important to the voters.

But it is going to be hard for him to support her in november after speaking the truth.
Daiwa Wrote:
On Mar 22, 2008
The only way Hillary could win the delegate race is if all the Michigan & Florida delegates were awarded to her by the DNC, and it's not a lock then. That would create the same sort of firestorm that the usurpation-by-superdelegate scenario would. Absent a gracious withdrawal, it's gonna stay ugly.
Locamama Wrote:
On Mar 22, 2008

That would create the same sort of firestorm that the usurpation-by-superdelegate scenario would.

The super delegates do and should count.  They are the party leadership of current and former office holders. 

The article linked is good in one respect only. It does show the true colors of the NY times.

I thought it was funny. 

Daiwa Wrote:
On Mar 22, 2008
The super delegates do and should count.


I agree. Those are the rules the DNC has set up, and they should at least follow them. The issue is the wisdom of their choices, not just of the superdelegates but of the DNC itself.

Remember this is the party of 'every vote counts; count every vote' but if their rank & file members happen to choose someone the power brokers (party leadership of current and former office holders) can't or won't live with and they throw the nomination to the candidate with fewer elected delegates and fewer popular votes, they'll have 'disenfranchised' their own members.

That they designed their nominating process this way is very telling, even allowing for the fact that the goal is to win the general election.
Locamama Wrote:
On Mar 23, 2008

That they designed their nominating process this way is very telling, even allowing for the fact that the goal is to win the general election.

I understand your point but I also understand why it's set up this way.   In the primaries it seems like the most liberal Dem. wins but it's the moderates or centrists that can carry a national election. 

Dr Guy Wrote:
On Mar 23, 2008
In the primaries it seems like the most liberal Dem. wins but it's the moderates or centrists that can carry a national election.


Yet the super delegates do not ameliorate the issue of the liberal influence, but exacerbate it.
Locamama Wrote:
On Mar 23, 2008

Yet the super delegates do not ameliorate the issue of the liberal influence, but exacerbate it.

what?!  That's not what they're supposed to do. 

Dr Guy Wrote:
On Mar 24, 2008
what?! That's not what they're supposed to do.


  Funny how that always seems to be the case with Washington Solutions.
Daiwa Wrote:
On Mar 24, 2008
Latest idea is even dumber - rig up a "mini-convention" just for superdelegates so they can get their nominee decided before the "real" convention. If all this maneuvering, wrangling & do-over silliness doesn't clearly demonstrate the party's lack of principles, nothing will. I'd be pretty bummed if I was a Democrat just now.
Dr Guy Wrote:
On Mar 24, 2008
Latest idea is even dumber - rig up a "mini-convention" just for superdelegates so they can get their nominee decided before the "real" convention.


what?! That's not what they're supposed to do.


Gotta love the idiots in DC!    
Moderateman Wrote:
On Mar 24, 2008

The Democrats show their true colors if they allow a second vote in
Michigan and Florida, one person, one vote, not one person two votes because the Democrats did not like the rules they set up.

Nitro Cruiser Wrote:
On Mar 25, 2008

Democrats need to stop eating their own

But they are so delicious... who can eat just one?

 

Chahk Wrote:
On Mar 30, 2008

Funny thing is, no matter which Dem eats whom, the Republicans will steal the election anyways.  I'm still surprised that in all the Democratic caucuses so far, no Diebold machine handed McCain the victory... yet.

Dr Guy Wrote:
On Mar 30, 2008
Funny thing is, no matter which Dem eats whom, the Republicans will steal the election anyways. I'm still surprised that in all the Democratic caucuses so far, no Diebold machine handed McCain the victory... yet.


I love it when idiots spout nonsense.   
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