JU Conservatives Behave Like Snarling Trolls - The Political Machine

Anyone else notice the spike in JU Conservatives behaving badly?

At one time JU had a good number of unashamedly Liberal bloggers who gave as good as they got and were more than willing to start somethin'. Some have been banned, some have wandered away from JU, and others are notably silent.

Where there used to be a real give-and-take in the political forum, it now seems like a place overrun with conservative thinkers who have taken advantage of the power vacuum and now relish in insulting, bashing, and generally abusing any blogger who dares break up the conservative attaboy fest currently going on.

I'm sure it's fun for the conservatives, but I think it reflects very poorly on JU because it discourages newcomers and causes the more gentle and reasonable of those on the "other side" to avoid discussing politics on JU. Takes some of the fun out of it, doncha think?

Some fun examples (hehe, in keeping with the JU requirement of providing "proof" of our assertions):

We wil forgive you your ignorance.

This time.

Either that or his mind is gone!

Hmmmmmm that "would" explain a lot of things, wouldn't it?

You have never proven anything other than you are the left sheeple. You dont deal in facts, just emotions.

Now grow a brain and try again.

Do you want to read the top line? Or are you capable of it? Now dont play stupid with me. It wont work.

Why don't you go over to the DU and post with people who think like you. You know, people who agree with terrorists.

Are you that thick? Can you possibly be any dumber?

I personally find it insulting to compare you to such wonderful technology as robotics.

I think he is just huffing again. He only responds to my blogs when he has. That is when he thinks he is smart.

Someone needs a lesson in reading comprehension. Or a lobotomy. Maybe just a shot of intelligence since they dont seem to have any.

Do you wear Bozo hair as well? Just wondering if you just play a clown, or a comedian! Cause you are funny!

No, do not pretend you know. You have no clue. And you are a liar.

That's just a very small sampling since I'm too ADD to spend more time posting more. In fairness, a few of these were in response to "attitude" from other bloggers, although just as many were essentially unprovoked.

Is it just me, or are many of the JU conservatives getting more belligerent? What's with all the insults and anger, conservatives? Are you dieting? Not getting any? Stressed out from work? What gives?

PS - I won't do it in the body of this article, but if you're a conservative (or anyone else, hehe) and would like a belligerent jerk report card, I'd be glad to let you know what kind of grade your JU behavior earns you.

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Hmmm, you just said what I've been thinking for a while.

And sure, I'll take one of those belligerent jerk report cards

I will admit that I've gotten testy and a little belligerent at times to a couple of them, but that's after being on the receiving end of insult after insult from them. I try to be nice to them, but it's oh so difficult.

please do me.

i mean the jerk report thing.

I am really glad you're part of JU, Tex. I like the fact you call out those that need it from time to time. Most people don't want that sort of aggravation. Me, I'm a peacenik centralist (my word for a fence-straddler) who would rather go for a fair exchange of ideas rather than 'debate' (read: argue) my points. I guess this must mean I'm getting old.

Good on you for standing up to the Trolls. May the froth be with you and I do hope you enjoy your cookie.

Hehe how many of these are about me? I can see one that is, for sure. Having just passed both a urine and blood drug test for this insomnia study I'm participating in, I can assure everyone that I've been extremely clean and sober lately. "Lately" meaning for at least the past 6 months.

As for how smart I think I am, well, it depends on the subject. I'm pretty smart when it comes to poetics, theology, history, and growing potatoes. I'm not so smart when it comes to in-depth car maintenance, plumbing, and growing lettuce. The list could go on, but I'm sure you get the point.

It was sooo good talking to you the other night, BTW, hope I catch you again soon.

latour:

Hmmm, you just said what I've been thinking for a while.

Hehe. The real test is...will conservatives agree?

And sure, I'll take one of those belligerent jerk report cards

Honestly, I've never seen you treat anyone on here poorly. Perhaps you have and I've missed it. I think some of your articles are worded in a belligerent way, haha, but you don't insult or attack other bloggers.

Latour gets an A-.

davad:

I've noticed that. When you first came here (or when I first became aware of you at least) you weren't insulting or argumentative. For some reason a few bloggers developed a strong dislike for you and have been hounding you ever since, and often when it's completely unwarranted. You've started reciprocating, though, hehe.

kingbee:

please do me.

i mean the jerk report thing.

You know, I couldn't give you a report card because I'm so hopelessly biased. I'm enamored with you and think you're one of the sharpest, most knowledgeable, wittiest creatures to ever grace the planet. Haha. You get an A++++ just for bein' you.

Maso:

am really glad you're part of JU, Tex.

Aw, thank you. Likewise.

I like the fact you call out those that need it from time to time. Most people don't want that sort of aggravation. Me, I'm a peacenik centralist (my word for a fence-straddler) who would rather go for a fair exchange of ideas rather than 'debate' (read: argue) my points. I guess this must mean I'm getting old.

You're not old, haha, I'm just far too outspoken for my own damn good. Sometimes I have to indulge myself and makes posts like these. It entertains me and purges whatever unfriendly thoughts I'm holding in.

I'm not too big on debate, either. You're very articulate and diplomatic, though, and I always enjoy it when you share your opinions on here.

Good on you for standing up to the Trolls. May the froth be with you and I do hope you enjoy your cookie.

Why thank you. Love that froth.

Texaii, a courageous article. I'm with you. [see my Aunt Blabby]

I've noticed a *certain8 belligerant conservative that almost always uses the terms "we" and "ours" when insulting an opponent, as in "We will forgive you" or "We don't like your type here."

I always wonder who the "we" is that he refers to, and I hope to GOD people don't include me in that circle-jerk of good-ol-boyism, because that's all it is, mental masturbation with your friends.

This same blogger is always the first to tell other people what they should and shouldnt write about too, and chastises them for insults...haha, but it's perfectly acceptable when HE tosses insult after insult out there.

There are none so blind, Tex....as those who are too damned oogly to look in the mirror.

To tell you the truth, I was sad to see some of the JU lefties go. It might surprise you, but I miss Dabe. Myrrander pokes his dome in once in awhile, so he's not completely gone, and I (for one) am glad to hear from him when he does. Reiki House was one I tried to get along with, but there was just nothing but venom there. You tell us that you are a liberal, and it does show, but you're a bit too fair minded to come off as a more militant lefty. I'm not questioning your self labelization, but you are able to look at most issues from both sides.

Being a "recovering troll-a-holic" I guess I have to admit that I am part of this problem. However, there is something I've also noticed. Every once in awhile one of "us" writes an article calling "us" to the carpet for "our" troll-a-holic frolics. For awhile "we" reign "ourselves" in, returning to a kindler, gentler writing style... if only for awhle. On the other hand, I'm trying to remember the last time the trolls and troll-a-holics on the left here at JU did the same. You congratulated me for being a "stand up guy", and I did appreciate that. Are "we" to understand that the "stand up" spirit only exists amongst "us" righties? If you read the last ones, Terpfan's "Forming a New Society of Trolls" Linkand my Mea Culpa, "I, ParaTed2k, Am A Troll-a-Holic and Troll"Link , not one "lefty" was willing to be "stand up guys" (or girls). Kind of makes me wonder. ;~D

' Texaii, a courageous article. I'm with you.'
Hear, hear. It IS a courageous article Texas, but not overstated (as might have been easy to do) and the stronger for it. Anybody notice the deafening silence from the right? The notable exception is of course Little Whip, whose point - in my opinion - is a good one, and well made.

Furry: Considering this is the first time I've EVER seen you say anything nice about anyone, I'm not taking much of what you say seriously. I am glad though, that you chose Texas Wahine to be nice to... we'd have to have words otherwise.

I wonder though (in the spirit of the thread), have you ever had anything nice to say about us righties?

I won't do it in the body of this article, but if you're a conservative (or anyone else, hehe) and would like a belligerent jerk report card, I'd be glad to let you know what kind of grade your JU behavior earns you.

I don't think I said any of these mean things.

But do let me know. I am paranoid and always eager to learn what others think of me.

andrew@netneurotic.net (or you could post it here...)

An example of a personal attack aimed at me:

Hey yo-yo....he wasn't here when he ran his mouth was he?

I've looked back at as many of the blogs I could remember participating in with the person who made the "yo-yo" remark and I was unable to locate a single instance where I made a similar personal remark aimed at him.

Why was it so difficult to just have said the second part and leave off the "yo-yo" part? It added nothing to the point that this person was trying to make.

Peace.

' Furry: Considering this is the first time I've EVER seen you say anything nice about anyone, I'm not taking much of what you say seriously.'
Now THAT'S more like it. Well done ParaTed2k, I knew I could count on you to snarl on cue!

'I wonder though (in the spirit of the thread), have you ever had anything nice to say about us righties?'
I refer you to my comment about Little Whip above. Der. (And how ironic that you should refer to 'us righties', given her point.)

"Der"

Nice, I rest my case. Which was nothing more than, "snarling trolls" isn't just a "conservative" attribute. You, Furry, can hold your snarling own, and never actually seem to make a point along the way.

I also noticed that you completely glossed over my comment to Texas Wahine.

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Sorry for my "troll-a-holic" relapse Texas, I just couldn't let that kind of shot stand without a truth detecting challenge. I'll work on it though. ;~D

'You, Furry, can hold your snarling own, and never actually seem to make a point along the way.'
Come on, be honest. I make plenty of points, you just don't agree with them. There is a big difference.

'I also noticed that you completely glossed over my comment to Texas Wahine.'
I didn't knowingly 'gloss over' anything. I responded to the post you directed at me. Sorry if that's not acceptable, but really. What is the comment to Texas Wahine to which you refer? Please elaborate, and I will do my best to respond.

I love ya Tex but I think if you are looking at this thread you will see something. The conservatives who have the guts to comment are saying things like, "I've found myslef behaving badly" or otherwise calling themselves out. Or saying that they miss having the opposition with some of the libs that have left. I just don't see that happen from the libs.

And just look what just happened between ParaTed and Furry Canary. ParaTed said he hadn't seen Furry say anything nice about anyone. Instead of defending himself, Furry jabbed at ParaTed, reversed the question (even though he had said nice things even in this same thread) and added the condescending "Der" at the end.

I have tried to stay out of the politics forum because every time I wander in I get dismissal type comments like "that's just total crap" with no backup or I get condescended. I make a general comment and it almost instantly becomes a personal attack. I get awfully tired of that.

Perhaps the conservatives outnumber the libs because the libs can dish it out but not take it. I know for certain noone has gotten banned just because they are liberal. You have to behave pretty badly to get banned. Dabe for instance literally begged to be banned.

I enjoy debating with people who have very different ideas than my own. That is the spice of life. I don't, however enjoy getting called idiotic or full of crap for my own opinions. You cherry picked some lines handed out by conservatives but left out what prompted it.

I would never, personally go as far as to say JU Liberals Behave like Trolls because I know a few who are fine debaters who don't personally attack in general.

So, are you going to give me a report card? Maybe I need it because I wasn't aware that I was a troll. And, just so there is no misunderstanding, I am not being snide. I mean that sincerely. If I am being a JU conservative troll, I need to know.

'And just look what just happened between ParaTed and Furry Canary. ParaTed said he hadn't seen Furry say anything nice about anyone. Instead of defending himself, Furry jabbed at ParaTed, reversed the question (even though he had said nice things even in this same thread) and added the condescending "Der" at the end.'

Isn't it reasonable to assume that, if ParaTed2k was going to question what was (at the time) the solitary contribution I had made to this thread, he would have actually read it? Under the circumstances, 'Der' doesn't strike me as particularly condescending at all.

My intial comment was, I believe, a positive one, and yet ParaTed2k saw fit to find fault in me for posting it. I DID defend myself from his accusations, and I reserve the right to do so - particularly if he sees fit to ignore that which is on the screen right in front of him.

In fairness I have tried to examine my posting record and see if I have fallen to the level of name calling or personal attacks...

Maybe a couple of times, by my reckoning. As far as I can tell, all I am guilty of is making up cute, harmless nicknames for the good Colonel. Nothing inflammatory, nothing incendiary.

Please please correct me if I am wrong. I would like to know if my behavior on this site is anything less than honorable. It is what I strive for. I honestly see us all as participants in a vast, ongoing debate. I hope that we can follow the TOU (AKA rules of engagement).

Why don't you go over to the DU and post with people who think like you. You know, people who agree with terrorists.

I don't see how this is "trolling".

You entered Iraq with lies, you will lose Iraq and lie about it and you will leave with the pretext that you have completed your mission. . . . America only has to decide on the number of (troops) it wishes to lose before withdrawing."

Sounds like typical liberal and democratic rhetoric to me.

The left will never forgive America for removing Iraq's dictator, handing over power to the majority, and finding Saddam's mass graves.

50 years from now we will hear the cry that all of that was lies, that Saddam never had a weapons program, that he never killed a single man, and that the Kurds were not gased (by non-existent poison gas).

But we will not hear it from Iraqis.

Well I saw one of my lines in there. I thought it was a very valid point to make ATM.

I personally find it insulting to compare you to such wonderful technology as robotics.

Everyone kept calling this JU user a robot or automated and I love technology. Oh well. I was actually trying to be funny, but I still have a lot of work to do on that.

I admit I have gotten out of hand once or twice. Obviously only after hitting my head on the wall time and time again with one particular person. I don't recall ever insulting anyone else but I could be wrong. But all this time it never occurred to me that I was a troll so maybe someone can inform me what exactly is the meaning of a troll on this site so that I can see if I truly am one and if so work on changing that label on myself.

I don't consider myself very smart when it comes to politics (I'm sure that was not necessary to say), I came here to learn and understand more and I have.

You know, I couldn't give you a report card because I'm so hopelessly biased.

After reading this I am not interested at all on a report card. I would only need to guess what my grade would be coming from you since I was already the center of one of your "courageous" articles. Getting a good grade from you would be like swimming up river, against the currents, with piranhas.

Anybody notice the deafening silence from the right?

She made the post at midnight (JU time). There are a fair number of people who don't log in until the late morning or after (late afternoon and evening time is where most of the traffic is).

I don't think that what you are pointing out has anything to do with political leaning. Some people are just confrontational. On this site, the liberals tend to write in other categories. Only the the very vocal post in the political forums. With conservatives, you see more in the political forum, so you are obviously going to see more jerky comments from them since there are more of them posting. There are a lot of conservatives that started posting on here because of the political forum, then they moved on to post in other areas. A very political person will bring politics to every discussion.

It's just a phase of the forum. Ride it out. It'll change again before you know it.

I have not commented on this article because as a moderate, my perfection allows me to chnage my mind.

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